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not always go, and land in the ocean. reuse. kind of like the shuttle idea, right? bill: right on. martha: that was revolutionary. bill: they had human beings bill: they had human beings >> see i tomorrow. jenna: we begin with a look at affordable care act and how it could impact this year's midterm elections. i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. eight million people have signed up. critics are raising questions about the numbers and how the law is really helping americans. a new fox poll shows only 39% of registered voters favor obamacare versus 56% who oppose it. since 2010, approval has never gone up higher than 40%. there is the question whether folks that sign up will pay the premiums. 21% say they're very confident enrollees will pay.
30% say they're somewhat confident. 23% are not very confident and 21% are not at all confident that people will pay for their new health care plans. ellison barber, a staff writer for the "washington free beacon" and joins us now. do these numbers surprise you? >> not at you will. everyone talks about disapproval, where people don't approve of the law. they have never approved of it, majority the week before the president signed law into effect, pew did a poll and asked respondents if they generally approved of the legislation being discussed in congress. 47% said they didn't. a year after it was passed in march 2011, there was a "gallup poll" essentially said same thing. 44% of the respondents felt the health care legislation that was passed was a bad thing. you have always had people in the mid 40s and high 40% say they don't approve of this law. what is significant over the past year we've seen it approaches higher numbers of 50% which is the highest it has been year-to-date.
it has never been well-liked. what we've seen this year. not only is that not changing but seems getting more unfavorable to the majority. jon: the president seems to try to take the long view, whether he honestly believes this or part of his marketing of the whole thing it is not entirely clear to me. every speech he talks about voting 50 times for repeal. this thing is settled, let's move on. it's the law of the land. when asked whether americans think 20 years from now obamacare is likely to be viewed as barack obama's worst accomplishment, 51% say yeah, they say yeah, it will be the worst thing he did while in office. 37% say they think it will be his best accomplishment. he says down the road it is going to be, you know, americans are going to be remembering him fondly because of all this. >> it will have the kind of waist and see if that happens, but what i always go back to talking about the law, so much information we need to know to make that conclusion we just don't have. i think that is why you see a higher percentage of people say
we don't feel good about this long term. you think about what has been implemented so far. it is not all of the law. the entire small business exchanges doesn't start until at least 2015. the cadillac tax which is a mechanism to pay for the law, that doesn't go into effect until 2018. there is lot to unroll down the road. people look at it and what happened last time and see how that was disasterous in terms of logistics rolling it out, i don't think they feel how they will carry out the later half and premiums and doctors and networks it will have down the road. jon: it is not a fully-implemented law yet. you have sign-up deadlines and there are at love parts and pieces yet to be implemented. >> we still don't know how many people actually paid in terms of selected plans. whenever they talk about the medicaid expansion a hear a lot of people point to that as success we have a lot of new enrollees in medicaid expansion. you don't know how many of these
people signed up in medicaid and because of affordable care act and newly-eligible group versus traditionally eligible group. states have to apply for reimbursement to the federal government. they do that in april. we don't know how many are newly enrolled in medicaid because of affordable care act. there are a lot of pieces you need to have a complete picture to decide how it is working and we don't have it. jon: the name, affordable care act may be something of a euphemism. "the new york times" reports, that a common thread running through stories of unenrolled is cost. many do not qualify for federal subsidies or believe the assistance is not enough to make the insurance affordable. some of those chose not to sign up were motivated by idealogical reasons. a "new york times/cbs news poll" of uninsured people in november, those who planned not to get coverage have said cost was the main reason. yet it is being foisted upon us, whether we want it or not. >> it ended up being a lot more expensive than people thought. you mentioned subsidies which
something people talked about before. you get up to 50% subsidies. you have various percentage of subsidies to help you pay for it. a lot of people are not eligible for higher percentages. they are at not eligible for 3 or 4, 5%. when you're paying $300 a month that doesn't put a big dent. jon: people who only signedd one in for a surprise. >> that is theoretically what you're paying, could be percentage of your income or higher. typically till will be higher. question in terms of penalties is the irs, how are they going to enforce collecting those penalties. they will be trying to. it will be a bigger penalty than people think and increases every year. jon: the good ol' irs gets to put more of its fingers in your pocket. ellison barber. thank you. >> you bet. jon: jenna. jenna: jon, right now a missile test setting off new concerns about pakistan's nuclear program. today the pakistan military said it successfully test-fired a
short-range missile that can carry a nuclear warhead up to 180 miles. the international community keep as close eye on pakistan's nuclear program because the country has not signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. of course the concern about terrorism. we can't forget that. meantime, new reports on how low the white house is willing to go with a major troop drawdown in afghanistan fan by end of this year. a security pact is not not agreed on by the afghan government. speaking of the afghan government, the country is still tallying up votes. national security correspondent jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon with more of this. jennifer? >> reporter: jenna, according to leaked reports from the white house and pentagon the discussion within the administration is talking about keeping just 5,000 u.s. troops in afghanistan post 2014 if a bilateral agreement is signed with the next afghan president. votes in the most recent afghan presidential election are being
tallieded. 5,000 is below the level recommended by u.s. command to make sure taliban doesn't return. the general explains what he needs. >> for over a year, we have used guidance that we received at defense ministerial in nato in february of 2013 as our primary planning guide. that guidance was called for a force of eight to 12,000 nato forces to provide, train, advise, as sis at the afghan core level. >> reporter: that does not include several thousand more u.s. troops needed for counterterrorism operations. 5,000 u.s. troops would reflect a judgment that afghan forces are now up to the task of providing their own security. and remaining u.s. mission would focus mainly on counterterrorism, not training. >> we believe it is vitally important that we have a force that remains in afghanistan. there is nothing that shows commitment, like having people on the ground there every day. i think that provides confidence
not only to the military, but confidence to the political leaders that we are going to stand behind them as they continue to improve. and i think that's important. >> reporter: house armed services chairman buck mckeon says there is no viable option below 10,000 that would guaranty the u.s. mission in afghanistan would have enduring success, jenna. jenna: a story we'll continue to follow. jen, thank you. jon: a committee of the united nations meets in a couple of hours to discuss the iran ambassador controversy. you might know the obama administration has denied a visa to iran's chosen u.n. ambassador hamid aboutalebi, accused of being in the 1979 hostage crisis in iran when americans were held more than a year. iran is challenging the move calling it a quote dangerous precedent. eric shawn live in the newsroom with more on controversy.
>> reporter: jon, four hours from now iran is going to the u.n. committee that deals with u.s. relations. that panel, include, cuba, china and russia as members. iran plans to convince them to reverse the u.s. ban on hamid aboutalebi. they signed a bill to prevent the getting visa he needs to become u.n. ambassador because of his role in the 1979 hostage crisis. he said at time he was only translator. he accused of helping to organize a 1993 political assassination of a noted iranian defector. that official, was 42 years old when he was shot to death by gunmen on a motorbike as he went to work at the council of resistance in of iran in rome. he was ambassador to italy. he was never charged with murder. iran's mission to the u.n. told fox news that the allegation is quote, nonsense. there is no reason they say that
aboutalebi should be blocked. >> translator: the united nations has responsibilities and in order to protect its credibility it should try to convince the host government to keep its commitments. >> reporter: by picking abu talib business, opponents charge that iranian president rouhani is sending an intentional message to the u.s. they call it an insult and say the u.n. should side with the u.s. >> when rowhani appoints aboutalebi as his ambassador to the the united nations know exactly who he is. he knows exactly the kind of controversy around it. but he feels that, he can stick it to the united states. he can stick it to the international community. he can get away with it. >> reporter: even if the u.n. committee agrees with iran, legal experts say it is doubtful that the panel can ultimately overrule the u.s. decision not to give aboutalebi that visa.
jon? >> eric shawn, keep an eye on that for us. that will be an interesting vote today. thank you. jenna: meantime a miami man accused of quill killing his new life to collect her life insurance. after weeks of defending himself the jury is expected to make a decision today. cybercrime as you know is a growing problem. why police are having a hard time catching the crooks. it is an interesting story about coordination between your federal and local law enforcement. the search continues underwater inside of a sunken south korean ferry, as four crewmembers make their first appearance in court.
insurance policy arthel neville in our new york city newsroom with the latest. >> reporter: jenna, that's right. his fate is in the hand of jurors. life in in prison is what 42-year-old michelle oscado. he represented himself for most of the trial but shocked the courtroom to bring in standby counsel to deliver closing arguments. it's a last minute twist in a murder trial nothing short of dramatic, including the time the judge threw him in jail for 30 days of contempt of court after he threatened a witness for the prosecution. but the defense turned the table yesterday, claiming the state exaggerated and overdramatized the evidence, during quote, viliification of escoto. 20 witnesses testified and hundred of pieces of evidence were introduced into the courtroom. in october of 2002, 21-year-old wendy tripago was murdered. for four days she was escoto's
wife. he is charged with first-degree murder. prosecutors call him a controlling manipulative schemer who beat his wife to death. he beat his wife to death after his failed plans to drown her in a jacuzzi. he wanted to collect on his wife's million dollar insurance policy the state argues. jury is set to begin deliberating today. last fall a civil jury ordered an ex-girlfriend of escoto to pay the family $44 million in a wrongful death lawsuit. the ex-girlfriend admitted to helping murder tripaga but was granted immunity from brosscution due to little evidence against her. michel escoto sits in jail where he has been since 2011. jenna: thank you, arthel. jon: screw members of a sinking south korean ferry are appearing in court. searchers are trying to recover
200 victims believed to be estimate inside. the confirmed death toll stand at 113. david piper from bangkok, thailand with the latest. david? >> reporter: jon, special weather conditional loud divers to spend more time in the sunken ferry today and they have been retrieving more bodies. now newly-released video has shown a diver trying to break through a window on the sunken ferry. they have been able to get further into the sunken ship to allow them to retrieve the bodies. those they recovered are taken by ambulance, for identification by loved once. physical descriptions are posted for relatives if victim identification is unknown. many family members and friends those on board still on a nearby island awaiting news of their loved ones. south korean authorities deployed an underwater robot to aid in the search. -- on standby to eventually raise the vessel. the ferry tipped over and sank within two hours.
it is not yet clear why. the crew have been criticized for allegedly failing to save passengers. and as the ship listed passengers were told to remain in rooms and cabins. transcripts from communications with the coast guard office suggest confusion and panic on the bridge, as the whether to order passengers to abandon ship. only four of the ship's, 46 lifeboats are reported to have been deployed. and, four members of the crew have been charged with negligence. back to you, jon. jon: what a sad, sad story. hard to believe that they still have not gotten everybody out from inside that ship. david piper, live from bangkok. david, thank you. jenna: while the captain and some crewmembers are facing charges for abandoning the ship, new stories of heroics are emerging. we want to make sure we brought you those. some witnesses reported that crewmembers gave their life jackets to passengers that had none. others braced choppy waters to
pull passengers to safety. seven of the crewmembers are among the dead or missing. a female steward refused to go with the group of students she was helping saying it was her job to make sure everyone got off the ship of the her body was later found. a wife of a missing can crewman, he told her during her last phone call, i'm on my way to save the kids. certainly a lot of questions what happened on the ship. we don't want to forget there were probably heroes among some of those folks on board as well. jon: the crew has been criticized but there clearly were some heroes. today president obama visiting the site of a deadly mudslide that devastated that community in washington state. why the mayor says it is important that the president get a first-hand look. also the u.s. immigration system getting a hard lesson in modern technology. the computer problems causing a major backlog of deportation cases. coming up. ♪
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comcast business built for business. jon: right now president obama is on his way to washington state to assess the damage from that terrible landslide. he is planning to meet with the families of victims as well as first-responders. more than 40 people died when a huge wall of mud and rocks slammed into this community one month ago. peter doocy is at the white house. he has the latest for us. peter. >> reporter: jon, the mayor of derrington, washington, one of the areas most impacted by the mudslide one month aoday, says he is glad president obama going to check things out himself. the reason is this mayor doesn't think it is possible to comprehend, get your head around how bad things are in rural washington after this mudslide unless you see it for yourself. the mayor also says the people of the area along state road 530 which was completely wiped out need as much help from the feds
as they can get. they were hurting financially even before this awful natural disaster. with that road now blocked, several hours have been added to commutes and otherwise very short drives through the area. those detours make a bad situation even worse for the locals. remember, president obama has already signed a disaster declaration. he did that at the beginning of april. but when he touches down this afternoon, the plan is to first tour the site where there is debris 30 feet deep and a very strong smell of sewage among the splintered remains of homes and toys and cars. the president then plans to sit down with families of the affected that includes some relatives of the 41 people who were killed. following that a behind closed doors visit, the president will head over to a firehouse and talk with some of the brave rescue crews. local officials do have a big job on their hands whether if cops to bringing things back to normal in rural washington. the state there reportedly put as $53 million price tag on the
damage. some of that should be reimbursed by federal money. in fact we've already seen fema and the labor department chip in a few million dollars each. jon? jon: peter doocy, at the white house. peter, thank you. jenna: many police officers have experienced working with real-world crimes. tangible items, physical evidence, if you will, but cybercrime as you know is exploding. in fact in 2012 the internet crime complaint center reported more than 8% jump in damages from a year earlier. resources to fight cybercrime are expensive and out of reach for many local law enforcement departments. morgan wright is security analyst who worked with local law enforcement teams. morgan on the past of this very issue, this story came to us because we saw this crime committed in the state of utah. basically the state of utah, their own department was ripped off to the tune of 2 1/2 million dollars. but local law enforcement found themselves stuck when suddenly the crime seemed to hop states
and perhaps hop overseas. >> absolutely. jenna: what is the biggest challenge really facing local law enforcement when it comes to cybercrimes? >> you know, jenna, a few years ago i wrote a couple chapters it as a contributing author to fourth edition of the security handbook. one of issues was working with law enforcement. the biggest issue is issue of jurisdiction. with when you're a city, when i was detective i had very specific jurisdiction. then you had the state level. then you had the federal level. once you start going outside of your state and going outside of your borders you have to deal with mutual legal assistance treaties and fbi involved with legal attaches. at some point you have to cut the investigation off because you don't have the time, money and resources and it doesn't make, even if you found who did it the amount of money you would spend getting to that person plus a trial is not worth the economic impact that the investigation incurs. jenna: in response to the crime we mentioned in utah, perhaps to your point as well, morgan, the fbi trying to bolster local
capabilities. >> right. jenna: brought in three utah state troopers, given them security clearance and give training on cybercrime. only three. doesn't sound like a lot. >> it is not. jenna: what do you actually need? are we talking about expanding local law enforcement to these huge teams to include cybercrime? are we talking about expanding federal agencies to do that? who can we turn to? >> well, they set up some task forces, between the fbi they have regional computer forensic labs, the secret service established their electronic crimes task force. the issue when you give somebody clearance you deal with national security. mosts things don't deal with national security. they deal with frauds or intrusions into banks or financial institutions and things like that. you might give three twice clearances but three is not enough. jenna, there will be over 200 million smart devices in the u.s. alone. there is 88% increase in tablets. we move recently what was called
ipd-4, the internet addressing scheme because we ran out of addresses. we're at ipd-6. we're in the billions and trillions of addresses. it is growing and exploding faster. you can't throw enough people at this to solve the problem. jenna: if i'm a victim of a cybercrime, morgan, who should i turn to? do i call my local law enforcement? do i call the fbi? who is my best bet? >> start off with local law enforcement, the sad fact unless you meet a threshold at federal level they will not take the case. for them to adopt a case it will have to be in the tens of thousands of economic loss before they adopt it there. are crimes like children, internet crimes against children task force, innocent images, the child pornography things, those things continue to grow. you have the national center for missing and exploited children. those are always funded and have people at it. but the sad fact there is only less than a million sworn police officers in the united states and maybe 20% of those are in investigations. you just can't put enough people in there. you can get some federal help.
jenna, at end of the day they will have to make very tough choices. whatwhat do we investigate and t what point do we stop an investigation. it's tough. jenna: the bottom line matters in all of this we know a lot of our police forces are taxed already when it comes to time. >> already strapped. jenna: and there is money now. let me ask you a quick final question. a front page in the piece in the "new york post," morgan, we're talking about local versus federal. >> right. jenna: this is a little bit of a different story. apparently some sort of a computer meltdown is crippling the nation's immigration court according to "the new york post." we reached out to the department of homeland security to ask about but apparently there is a problem with the servers that feed this very important part of our u.s. government. it doesn't really instill a lot of confidence when you read a report like that. go into talking about the health care website and everything else, about who we can really trust when it comes to internet security. how would you answer that. >> look the five servers, immigration and custom enforcement, they, how do five
servers go down? what is the backup plan? disaster plan? continuity of operations? the fact that it has been down this long still waiting for parts to show up, i looked at this, something is terribly wrong when you can take all five servers down and waiting for parts to show up. i don't know if we're still dealing with vacuum tubes and univac from 1947. this should not. even cia went to amazon web services and did cloud infrastructure so they did not have this kind of failure. it is tough. jenna: what do you do? that is what we're left with. we reached out to the department of homeland security waiting for a response. we'll continue to watch the story. morgan, great to have your insights as always. >> thanks again, jenna. jon: government efficiency on display. a busy day at the supreme court as we get a major ruling on affirmative action, the justices hear another case involving free speech and campaign politics. can telling a campaign lie be a crime? biofuels, they may not be as great an alternative to fossil
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court was wrong to do away with the change over concerns, it was discriminatory. jon: meantime the issue of free speech and politics at the center of another heated case at u.s. supreme court. today at issue, a law in ohio that has the power to refer groups that could be running false advertising for possible criminal charges. shannon bream, live in washington with that. shannon? >> reporter: jon, the plaintiffs who brought the case say it is all about the first amendment and free speech. they sought to run political ads aimed then at congressman steve driehaus in the middle of his election campaign. they have wanted to run ads, that he voted for obama care knowing that it could contained public funding that could lead abortions. he filed a complaint to him, that political speech can refer offenders to prosecutors. pro-life susan b. anthony list sued, that the setup is intimidation and silencing free speech. the group said, quote this lawsuit originated when we
sought to criticize those who voted for obamacare around expansion of taxpayer-funded abortion it entailed. we have full confidence in the veracity of our claims and hope to see our first amendment rights affirmed by the courts. well, it has been a really tricky case. many twists and turns getting to the supreme court. driehaus, is no longer in congress with drew the complaint against susan b. anthony but they felt it was important to go all the way to the supreme court. it is trying to convince justices that system is unconstitutional that could wind up silencing political speech. the lower courts found that since driehaus dropped complaint. there is no issue ripe for review. that is the winning argument. plaintiffs say the underlying issues are still in play and courts should settle this once and for all. they shouldn't have to wait until another complaint is filed against them. we wait until the justices think. a decision due by indof june. jon: a lot of decisions coming
out of this court on political speech. shannon bream, thank you. jenna: kpc in michigan boasts one of the longest-serving employees in the fried chicken chain. mary lou osborn has been cooking up the chrispy fried chicken for 52 years. she even got to meet the colonel once. saying. >> he is wonderful man. he never smoked, never drank and he was great. jenna: sounds good. she likes working and her customers. she says she keeps working because she would be bored at home. she has an opinion on one of the biggest questions facing anyone who likes kfc. original recipe or extra chrispy? jon, she votes for the original recipe. jon: but does she after 52 years know the secret? jenna: secret recipe? that is the question. jon: that is -- jenna: we'll have reach out to mary lou. she sound like an interesting person to talk to. jon: she is certainly loyal, loyal to her job. good for her. congratulations.
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jon: new next hour, some new manufacturing on drone strikes that took out dozens of al qaeda fighters in yemen. who the u.s. is going after. that's next. new concerns that north korea could be preparing for a nuclear test as president obama gets ready to visit the region. plus, a deadly crime spree in one of the country's biggest cities. how police are trying to crack down on all of the jenna: well the federal aviation administration approving the first outdoor testing facility for drones. the faa hopes to discover how the aircraft can be implemented
in us air space but the project raising of course major concerns about air traffic safety and the potential for cyberterrorism as well. john roberts is live from atlanta with more on this story. >> reporter: jenna, good morning to you. we got an exclusive look inside one of the six faa drone test sites. this one at texas a&m university in "corpus christi." researcherses are wrestling with how drones are safely integrated into us air space and what they would be best used for. some of the hurdles they're tackling, how could drones stay away from other aircraft and objects. how to address privacy concern because almost every drone is equipped with a camera. the danger that the drone gps navigation system could be jammed or hacked and the drone could be set off course. the university professor said that is a big concern. >> if it was in a very populated area, obviously, if it's a large drone and someone brings it down it could, it could cause a lot
of damage or harm and we certainly don't want that to happen. >> reporter: researchers say in order to prevent that the civilian gps system may need to be hardened, encrypted like the military system so it can't be hacked. what about the application of drones? the first commercial use is likely crop surveys, checking oil and gas pipelines, and electrical transmissions and sufficient. companies like amazon, dhs and dominoes's pizza are blue skying this whole thing, exploring ways that drones could be used to make deliveries. while applications like that may be a long ways off a researcher envision as future where drones will be a part of our everyday life. >> in our lifetime, every household will have a drone, a, how about that? that can help you assistance and go do chores for you or something. >> reporter: can you imagine having your very own pet drone? ultimately integration of drones in airspace may be driven bit
almighty dollar. texastexas a&m researchers say e drone industry will be $8 billion in texas alone. $80 billion across the country. like cell phones which started off as a very rare appliance, one day everyone may have their own little drone. jenna: jon, i was downtown over the weekend and we were sitting outside, this guy was flying around a drone. there was outdoor seating. everyone looked up, even in crowded, busy, loud, new york city you could hear it. it was a very bizarre feeling of what -- >> reporter: the big question, was it spying on you? jenna: i was looking around. >> reporter: that is a big concern for a lot of people. jenna: my husband brought that up. interesting to look at. if that thing was outside of our window i might have have a problem with it. that is interesting to see. >> reporter: these risch shoes they're wrestling with, jenna. these are issues they're wrestling with. jenna: john, thank you. jon: i wanted toe know what you were having for dinner, that's
all. jenna: it was mexican food and it was delicious. jon: if you're lucky enough to have clear skies tonight you will be in for a heavenly light show. arthel neville in the new york newsroom to explain. >> reporter: jon, happy earth day. this is the peak of the meteor shower. when the clock strikes 10:00 p.m. eastern time head outside and look at the sky. i'm told that the best time to see the shower is 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning. it is called the lyrid meteor shower because this shower of shooting stars will radiate from a region in the sky near the constellation lyra. this happens every year april 16th to the 25th. light from the moon can drown out many shooting stars. tonight's quarter moon will dampen the show a little bit especially later in the night. if you're up, check it out. shooting stars are one of the easiest of all astronomical events to view. no special equipment is needed. it lasts for days. if it's a little cloudy tonight the viewing extravaganza
continues a few nights until the 25th. the shooting stars in this event are very bright and dramatic. the comet, responsible for the lirid meteor shower completes one orbit of the sun every 415 years. you can see the meteor shower online in a live broadcast from the national space agency. the stream will begin around 9:30 p.m., weather permitting on the marshall space flight center u-stream page. jon: you know they will have some of the best cameras. >> reporter: you know that looks pretty cool. jon: sounds like fun. thanks. jenna: vice president joe biden in ukraine with tough talk for russia. as we hear their troops snuck across-the-boarder to help separatists to generally cause trouble. will words alone stop vladmir putin from another land grab? we'll get into that. also a leopard on the loose, taking a chunk out of one person as others tried to fight the big cat off. that doesn't look like fun. we'll show you how this ends.
now you could have done it twice. this is awkward. go to comcastbusiness.com/ checkyourspeed. if we can't offer faster speeds or save you money we'll give you $150. comcast business built for business. jenna: right now the u.s. promising $50 million to help ukraine with political and economic reforms. there are no signs russia is complying with its recent agreement to curb violence in eastern ukraine. vice president biden is wrapping up a two-day visit there saying -- >> no nation has the right to simply grab land from another nation. no nation has that right, and we will never recognize russia's illegal occupation of crimea, and neither will the world. jenna: there's lots of questions about what we are doing or not
doing in ukraine. but now there are reports that russia may be taking a huge financial hit from its own aggression there. in a recent "wall street journal" op-ed, berman says this, there are reports that russia lost $51 billion in the first quarter of 2014 this year. the world bank says the russian economy could shrink 2% this year. not good for them. observers say recent moves like jacking up gas prices in ukraine could backfire on their economy. there are reports that russia's push into ukraine could cost $160 billion, forcing russia's economy to stagnant. russia's central bank is signaling the worst is yet to come. berman says, in the sometime not-too-distant future it would be considerably difficult for the kremlin to ignore the real world price associated with its policies. nicholas burns is former state department undersecretary and foreign affairs columnist for the global post. nice to have you with us,
ambassador. a question that came up in the op-ed piece, if all that happens in russia, do our actions matter? is there enough damage happening to the russian economy perhaps this doesn't pay to go further into ukraine? >> well, i don't think so. there may be some economic costs to the russians for illegally annexing crimea, for trying to destablize eastern ukraine, frankly i think the problem right now is the united states and europe have not been able to drive up the cost enough. president putin's very decisive around his strategic aim is to build this band of buffer states around russia to protect him what he sees as a zero-sum game, of push and pull with the united states and western europe, and i don't think president putin will stop in ukraine because the russian stock market is down or because his gdp growth rate isn't what he wants it to be. so the real imperative here is for the europeans especially, the germans, to agree to sanctions on russia that will make it hurt and will raise the
economic cost to putin and in conjunction with the united states, if they could do that, that would be most effective pushback against the russians. jenna: why haven't we done that yet? >> well, i think the united states is well-intentioned here and president obama has wanted to do that but the europeans are overreliant on russian natural gas and on trade with russia. this was a strategic mistake made 30 years ago by, by agreeing to essentially of sort, a russian monopoly in some countries, six countries in western europe, 100% dependent on the russians on gazprom, the russian state gas company, for their natural gas. so the long-term answer for the europeans to be building alternative pipelines of gas from norway and from algeria and from other parts of the black sea region, from turkey and azerbaijan to supply the western european market. i also think it would be a good decision for the u.s., congress and the president to agree to
the export of american liquified natural gas to europe as well, if the market dictates that. jenna: as we know timelines for some of that are a year, two years, three years away to be really effective. of course you point out the message would be sent if we start moving in that direction, if the europeans don't come to the party, ambassador, if they decide this isn't worth it for them, does that leave us with no more options? >> it essentially leaves us without our most important leverage which is economic sank shuns because the u.s., quite rightly president obama has said, we'll not make this into a military contest between the united states and russia. we have no security commitments to ukraine. it wouldn't make sense. president bush did not do that. when russia invaded georgia in 2008, so i think, the president obama is following a sensible policy here but he needs help from the europeans. without that common outlook, putin, the price to putin will simply not be big enough. jenna: on that "washington post" editorial board had a real
interesting piece i wanted to get your quick final thoughts on. basically the post said that the policy the president has been following has failed. he must act now or doom ukraine to dismemberment. big picture for us if you would, ambassador, if that was the fate of ukraine and it was divided up, what is at stake for us and the world? >> a big principle. what vice president biden said. we should want to live in a world where big countries don't take over land of smaller countries. that is what ending the cold war was about with the victory for democratic countries. this is big moment for the united states. i think the post was a bit too rough on the president, there is certainly more the president can do. jenna: ambassador burns, a pleasure to have you on the program. thank you so much. >> thank you very much. jon: animal rescue is a tough and dangerous job but we don't think anybody expected this. a leopard springs through a roof of a home in india, startling rescuers who were trying to capture it. the one guy was bitten in the back side, but managed to jump
over a wall and escape. the big cat finally removed from the home after a four-hour standoff. leopards are protected in india as you know, many are straying into villages and cities in search of food as the natural habitat shrinks. jenna: he look as little bit nervous. i wouldn't want him jumping up on one of our studios out of compassion for the leopard. jon: a leopard in a box. jenna: what was he doing in the home? having lunch? jon: we'll work on that. we'll get more information. jenna: new polling numbers out showing congress with the best approval numbers all year. too bad the best numbers are 15%. jon: hey. jenna: what could that and debate over obamacare mean for vulnerable lawmakers is the question we'll be asking next hour. another political will she or won't she? some are saying that senator elizabeth warren could be getting ready to run for president. eea
we begin with brand new fox americans. welcome to the second hour of "happening now." i am jenna lee. >> and i am jon scott. if congressional hearing were held, 44% of voters say they would back a republican and 41% say they would support a democrat. and 54% approve of the way the president is handling and the economy. we have ed keith here and are they breaking out the campagna in the halls of congress with the approval ratings up 15% >> they are beyond paid staff and beloved family members. they are back home trying to remind people they exist and
have been trying to do work but with congress so uneventful it is remarkable. >> you had questions about the number of people that identify as independent voters. >> studies so they are not the same thing as swing voters. they are independent voters have an infinity for republicans or democrats. one study showed only 10% are swing voters so that is something to look at when you look at polls that refer to independent voters. >> when asked if obamacare is the only difference between candidates and you will vote for the one who 53% say they would vote for the one that fights against it and wants to
dismantle and 39% goes for the candidate that fights for obamacare. if you are democrat running in a vulnerable district doesn't that say stay miles away from obamacare? >> it does. this cycle it is competitive in the house and senate. so maybe two dozen democrats who have to distance themselves from the law. the bulk of them are allowed to run on it. but it does put people like mary landrieu and others on notice and it will try to keep them from steering the conversation into the health care. but they will have to create distance when it comes up. >> and there was this question: when the candidate's position on obamacare would be an important factor in voters and how they cast their vote in 2014.
and 80% of republicans said it will be important. 72% of independents and 67% of democrats even. there have been many on the democratic side urging that candidates not talk about obamacare but it is going to be an important issue. >> the one that jumped out to me from this poll was 54% of people polled said that obamacare and how a candidate believed on obamacare is an important issue when voting in the voting booth and 19% said it was the most important factor. i think that is a wake-up call for the democrats and also republicans. i have talked to candidates on the republican side that say obamacare is an issue but for are others as well.
but the fact of the matter is this is what people are paying attention to. this is something republicans need to realize this is an issue. for the first time the republicans are on the winning side of the health care issue. and they maybe realizing we need to push our advantage on this. >> and the republicans seem too the excitement as well. >> you asked how excited or focused are you and republicans have an 11-point edge which has to be bringing great cause to the democrats. that is why you are seek them focus on economic changes like raising the minimum wage and equal pay. when you look at democratic swing voters generally pocketbook issues beyond health care are their concerns and if democrats are seen fighting for
them the hope is they will turn out to vote and maybe the numbers will change. >> and maybe those voters forget about this change called obamacare which has proven to be so unpopular. >> ed and michael, thank you both. south korea is raising concerns that the north maybe preparing to carry out another nuclear test days before the president visit. john hunt has more. >> reporter: the south korea minsistry is saying they have deducted activity that is similar to the preparations carried out before the last test in february of 2013. among the concerns is the placement of a large screen at the tunnel entrance of the site.
that might be more difficult for others to watch what is going on. south korea launched a task force indicating they are taking this seriously and the united states is stepping up surveillance. it maybe north korea is seeking attention and looking to make a point just as president obama arrives in the region. he is going to visit japan and south korea later this week. near the top of the agenda is the question of how to manage and counter the perceived threat from north korea. >> in many ways it doesn't make sense to set it off while the president is in the region because it might make the united states do something affective about north korea. but if the north koreans disrespect the president, they will say there is no reason not
to go ahead. this will show their technical capabilities and what they think of the united states. >> any test would bring cond condemnation and likely more sanctions on an economy that is crippled already. but they don't care, as we can see, about their own people too much. new images released of the unmanned submarine, the blue fin 21, that is searching the floor of the indian ocean. authorities hope it will be able to locate the black boxes from flight mh370 that disappeared on march 8 with 290 people on board. the president taking off this morning going to washington before heading to asia.
he is going to visit with the victims and families of the deadly mudslide that killed dozens of people and buried many more homes. we are live. >> reporter: the president is expected to be touring the landslide area by helicopter and then meet with surviving family members, first responders, make a few comments and head back to air force one for his plan trip to asia. he will get a look at the scope and the big recovery job ahead. it looks like they have found all of the missing. it hasn't been made official but they found the last two i was told bringing the death toll to 43. geologist are saying no one had
to die >> there are tools that we can predict mudslide behavior, issue warnings and predict the time of failure quite well. >> reporter: look at what happened at this copper mine in utah. the owner has the gadgets to pick up this and it started picking up movement and the decision was made to evacuate workers and equipment. nine hours later there was a massive slide. similar systems are being used in the pipeline system in norway and sweden. the cost is the challenge. the federal government spends $3 million on mitigation even though landslides kill 25-50 americans and cause billions in damage. they are responding by updating
the landslide map. >> you have to know where the monitor because it is expensive so it helps if you can narrow undown the place that is at risk. >> reporter: they are estimating it will cost the government $10 million. the labor department has given $2.8 million and $6 million has been raised by donations. a rash of weekend violence is raising issues about crime in the largest city and what police are trying to do to stop it. and massachusetts senator elizabeth warren helping democrats campaign in the fall and is her liberalism doing more harm than good? we will get intro it. we will get intro it.
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for canadidates toughing waste reelection. carl is here to look at that. >> the book is now on sale. and it is titled "a fighting chance" and has all of the ear' marks of a pre-campaign book designed to build the warren ring of the party. she has been doing promotional appearances for the book and going on tv and insisting she is not running for president but the warren wing doesn't want to believe that and got a reason for hope when asked if hilary clinton would make a good president. she was complimentitary. >> i think hilary clinton is terrific. we have to stay focused on the issues now. >> within her party, the warren ring would be toxic to democrats seeking reelection.
they need six seats to win the majority and the six are at odds with her. folks like mary landrieu, an energy state and same with alaska and arkansas. all of them support the keystone pipeline with warren and the wing and liberals oppose. there are new super pacs that want to kill the pipeline and end the gun sales that are poplar with warren but put the moderist in trouble when they live in the red state. it would cost them the majority meaning the president would to end the term with republicans in both offices.
easter weekend. what happened in the city? >> to be honest, chicago police had a bad weekend. shootings were down and murders were down the first couple months of the year and april rolled around and every weekend it has been 25-45 shootings particularly on the west and south side. >> one of the particular heart breaking stories was a group of young ones, younger than 15 at the playground after the easter service. guys rolled up asking if they were part of the gang and they were not. and they opened fire. i was looking at the statistics and children seem to be the most effected. are say being targeted? >> i don't know if is
specifically. but the shootings are gang-related and that is going to include children as young as 15-16 years old. our most common shooting victims are in that 16-22 to 23 age range. >> talk about the crimes and where they are emerging. we have heard the murder report is getting better but then we hear reports saying the police department is fudging the numbers on crime. what is the reality? >> when it comes to the numbers, two agencies are counting the numbers. so it is important to make sure you compare apples to apples. the police count one way and the medical examiner counts another way when doing autopsy. that is where the discrepancy in the numbers come. >> for you, michael, as you look at the stories and get a sense
of what is happening in the neighborhoods, are thinks getter better or worse? >> the was a huge spike in shootings and murders two years ago and since then things are better. there is a new police superintented, gary mccarthy, who is putting new strategy in putting in officers where they had the most crime and that has brought the numbers down. last year to this year, though, the murder numbers are on pace with last year. it has been through mid-april, mid to late april there has been about a hundred murders in the 4-5 last years. so improved in some ways and about the same in others >> taking a look at what the new sup superintendant is doing. he set-up patrols in the neighborhoods hit the hardest.
overhauled the gang strategy and looking at social media and real time intelligence to anticipate where the crimes are happening. and there is a 16-member task force of federal prosecutors now. what else can be done, michael? >> the superintendent has been working with the mayor on social service programs. that is fairly unique to chicago to have the police department working as closely as they are trying to get these young people off the streets and into activities before they would join gains. >> in your experience, any success stories or examples of things that have worked? >> i think a lot of the community-based programs can work. i think in some of these neighborhoods where there is a large gang population providing
youth with other activities is something that may be working in some of these areas. >> we will see. obviously, again, it is hard to characterize this as a slow winter because the weather was bad. things are warming up so you are seeing the violence again. thank you, michael. nice to have you on the program. and a homeowner shoots two teenagers dead after breaking into his house. prosecutors say he planneded the attack. was it self defense or a case of first degree murder? we will get into that. and courtroom drama taken to a whole new level after an accused gang member goes after a witness on the stand and shots ring out. >> he was falling as he was shooting him.
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of liquid material safely every year. so, is there a growing problem about accidents? what is really the state of train safety in this country, right now? >> reporter: that is the important question, jenna. there is growing concern about all this. outgoing, ntsb chairman debra hersman. they moved everything safely, one or two tank cars and part after much larger train. today whole trains may be comprised of 100 tank cars carrying hazardous liquids. train tracks run through the backyards of millions of americans. shipments increased more than 400% since 2005. hersman says, that local emergency response teams are not prepared to respond if there is an accident. jenna: so how exactly will this forum help with that? what is the plan moving forward? >> reporter: well the in tsb says current tank cars and older tank cars are not safe to carry
hazardous liquids. they recommended in 2009, that new cars equipped with safety features with valves that remain closed if there is an accident and puncture resistant shells. they are safe to carry cooking oil but not crude oil. emergency responders experts, rather and, all of them are meeting at the forum to discuss ways to make all of these shipments safer. they should because petroleum exports were up 10% year-over-year in 2013 and more of that stuff is being shipped by rail, jenna. jenna: that is the interesting part. we don't want to forget that part of the story, right, adam? there is big oil boom in it country and we're seeing more shipments by rail because is the way to move them. >> reporter: one of the arguments why the keystone pipeline is needs stock built because you transfer some of that by rail would go through the pipeline. jenna: that an interesting story we'll watch. adam, thank you. jon: a terrifying shooting at a utah courthouse we brought to
you yesterday on "happening now." authorities say this defendant rushed the witness stand, threatening to attack a person with a pen. moments later u.s. marshal shot him in front of a stunned jury. the defendant was rushed to a hospital where he later died. he was named in an indictment accusing gang members of assault, conspiracy, robbery and weapons charges. also a minnesota man on trial for murder now, accused of shooting two teenagers who broke into his home. byron smith says it was self-defense. that is why he shot them. but the prosecutor says that smith planned the killings and was waiting in his basement with two guns, a book, and some snacks. lis wiehl is a fox news legal analyst. doug burns is a former prosecutor. here to discuss this very strange case. so this fellow, byron smith, 65 years old. his place was broken into time and time again. he hears glass breaking upstairs and two teenagers wind up dead. >> right, is it before that he
is waiting down in the basement for them, waiting with a snacks and power drink and all that with a gun ready to go. the teenager comes down, shoots the boy, teenager, not dead yet. goes off, a good clean, quoting here from him, a good clean finishing shot to the head. then drags that body to another room so he doesn't mess up his carpets, get blood on the carpets. the girl comes down, apparently according to him is laughing at him. he shoots her twice in the head. she is dead. she brings, he brings that body over and places it on the boy. that is not self-defense in any state, especially minneapolis or minnesota. jon: lack of a better term prosecutors are charging overhill here, doug? >> the thing is, jon, the law is different in your home than out on street. in your home you have no absolutely duty to retreat none whatsoever. more importantly you're allowed to use deadly force even if you're not confronted with deadly force so long as a felony
is being perpetrated and reality is, to take this out of the academic books into the real world, cases like this have very little jury appeal, okay, for the prosecutors when two people break into someone's house, they are changing the rules on many levels. >> except they still have to follow, they being the jury, still have to follow, with jury nullification and judge's instructions. looking at a 1997 case, manslaughter case where the court said this, the duty to retreat or duty not to retreat only end at good faith, even if it is in your own home. in other words if you go beyond good faith, if you have the person and they're down and they can not hurt you and you do that as he would say, firing one shot in the head to get it over with that goes beyond good faith. >> let's go to a little horror movie analogy. i'm not being cute. how many mirror -- horror movies seen. somebody is down, all of sudden they're up. it becomes very hard to parse out when self-defense ends. >> talking about two teenagers. >> doesn't matter.
jon: these are about as all american looking kids as you could find. >> right. and not armed apparently. jon: but, there was testimony, there was evidence that there were -- >> multiple break hs in. jon: break hs in and apparently they were in the business -- break-inches. they were in business of stealing painkillers. >> the male victim broke into the defendant's house twice before. >> i cede all the points. he has the right to defend himself with the castle doctrine, coming into your own home. firing off thing round and the girl came to it and she laughed, that is what triggered him, the laugh made him angry, and he fired those two shots again. jon: it become as very fine point, but if you hit somebody with a cowell couple of shots, the, the first shots he used against the woman, the girl, were apparently from a fairly
high powered rifle. >> i don't want -- jon: what does, how do you determine which shot killed them? >> i don't want to be unfair. i like what you say, it's a fine line and hard to distinguish, you're right. so the point is, if you immobilize someone, then there is no longer a felony and maybe he did go too far i concede that but it is debatable. >> if i'm doing closing argument for this, the closing arguement i'm coming out to the jury, i'm saying a good clean finishing shot to the head. my words, lads and gentlemen, those are the words of the defendant. that is not self-defense. jon: if these had been sort of middle-aged burglars, if these guys, had been a husband and wife team in their 40s or 50s, would it be different? the fact is you have got this clean-cut, 17 and 18-year-old kid -- >> that goes to jury appeal. >> that is part of calculus. jon: he had been broken into time and time again. >> that is big part why i'm saying, lis mentioned nullification. let's explain that that is where
the proof and law supports a conviction but the jury never has the power, the right to return a not guilty verdict. some lawyers ask the judge to instruct on that. never get it. it is not really legal principle. the idea you can nullify a verdict based on other factors. you don't want to encourage it. >> you want the jury to follow law and facts and come up with a result even if they're not happy we but they're following law. in minnesota, it's a fairly liberal state with the castle doctrine. if this were tried in texas, could be a different story. jon: a town of 8,000 people. >> small town. jon: small town. apparently everybody knew the kids. it's a sad story. we'll keep our viewers updated what happens. doug burns, lis wiehl. >> my pleasure, jon. jenna: in other news, update on drone strikes in yemen that killed dozens of al qaeda fighters. we're finding out who exactly was killed in these drone strikes. as the obama administration is now facing a court order to
release secret memos on using drones to kill americans suspected of terrorism overseas. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more on this story. >> reporter: thank you, jenna. many government official confirming to fox news a short time ago the recent propaganda video release by al qaeda in yemen last week was gold mine in naming operatives, identifying vehicles and license plates in the rugged mountains of southern yemen a area largely outside of the government control and similar to the lawless trial areas of pakistan. the yemeni government was a total miscalculation by al qaeda in yemen, helping security forces narrow focus of the operation which came in three waves over the weekened. this is the first time that yemeni security forces trained by u.s. counterterrorism teams have carried out night raids with the support of us air strikes. fox news has also told us this morning target was not leadership of al qaeda in yemen which includes a long time aide to usama bin laden. you see him there on the right.
nor the bomb-maker, ibrahim who was behind the failed underwear bombing plot in 2009. they do not travel with large groups of recruits and two to great lengths to avoid training camps with are target for terrorist strikes. the yemeni government official says it was designed to break support network for aqap. and recruitment network. they had intelligence they were preparing a attack on oil facility where foreign nationals works. jenna: catherine thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: there is a case in front of the supreme court that could change the way you watch television in the future. peter barnes from the fox business network is outside of the supreme court with a look at that. plus what we're learning about why some people can tolerate pain much better than others. the role genetics might play in how you feel.
jenna: fascinating new study on genes today. researchers say your dna may help determine your threshold for pain. dr. marc siegel, professor of medicine at langone medical center and fox news a-teamer. we thought it was only gender that women are tougher and can take more pain than men but according to the study it could have something to do with your genes? >> i completely by that, both things. women take pain better than men. jenna: good answer. >> men are inflicting pain on women all the time. they're better at it. i also think there are genetic variations. this study comes out of california and being presented right now to the american academy of neurology in philadelphia. 2700 people were studied. there is limitations in the design of the study i think because they only studied people that already had chronic pain. i treat a lot of people with chronic pain. i don't think their answers are always that reliable. because they're used to the medications they're getting. they're on opiates. and they may not exactly tell pain the way everyone else tells
it. >> the way the study was put together is essentially they were asked a question about how much pain they were feeling, and thin researchers were looking at their genes and trying to see if different people fet pain in certain way. they thought they found some sort of a pattern on that. if that came out to be case, and obviously further research needs to be done, would that change the way for example, you would prescribe pain medication? how would it impact how we treat people? >> it would impact greatly. i think you described that absolutely beautifully. they found the drd-1 gene, the drd-1 gene was 30% higher if pain didn't bother you. the drd-2 gene was, 25% higher if everything made you feel pain. so there is differences from one person to the next. and genes, probably help us determine it, based on now that we know the human genome. if in the future if i look down my medical crystal ball, into the future, i think we'll have a situation where i'm growing to
say, hey, jenna, you're feeling little more pain because you have a little bit more of the drd-2 gene. maybe i offer you a splicer to change your genes a little bit. that's where we're headed. i don't know if insurance will cover it. jenna: that is the big question. less potentially the treatment on given medication and maybe the way we treat people more when it comes to their genetic code? >> we might be able to. they're starting to do that in animal research. there is study in mit using something called crisper technology where they took a animal with a liver problem, based on single genetic abnormality and think corrected it. when you use that technology on a cell it cause as lot of disturbance. it is not ready for prime time in humans yet. i could sniff that out, with the drd-2 gene. jenna: like you copy it. like we edit some of our writing it would be like doing that for your genetic code. how would that work for a normal person, a normal situation. how would that be applied, where
a do would say, i will look at your again tick code, i will edit out your particular code? >> as you point out, it starts with a fetus. we may be able to do that early in life and say, you know your chances of getting diabetes here are 48%. what do you want to do about that? maybe you alter your life-style. maybe you live knowing what your risks are, help me medically to treat you and maybe that snipper will come along later on if i think the disease is going to happen especially if it's a deadly disease. jenna: you've written on this topic many times and i know you can talk about it on the air when you think perhaps as a doctor you're crossing the rubicon if you will, when you're playing god too much? does that come up at all when you look at genetic study what is we're able to do potentially and how invasive we can get with our again net tick makeup? >> really important question and i have written about it and we want to stay on the side of the line with disease. i don't want to choose blue eyes or green eyes.
i don't want everyone to look as beautiful as you, jenna. jenna: i don't know, i got a lot of makeup. >> i don't want to pick gender. we have to stick with disease. >> this genetic editing could be used for evil instead of good but for other cosmetic causes rather than for causes have to do with illness. >> exactly. that is where it starts to get very problematic. i don't want designer babies. i don't want designer people. i want to say, hey, here comes down syndrome. maybe we prevent it from occurring before it ever does. jenna: fascinating. what about designer shoes? >> those are fine. jenna: like to get a medical opinion. it faces nating to see all the research being done on genes. >> we're getting somewhere. jenna: doctor, great to see you. thank you. jon? jon: a major airport, jenna, shuts down one of its runways as a massive fire rages nearby. we'll tell where this is happening. supreme court hearing, a landmark case that could change
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jenna: a fire in an oil tanker business in phoenix sent a massive plume of black smoke over the city. sky harbor international airport temporarily shutting down the north runway over this but a spokesperson says it didn't cause any delays because they used two other runways. two people were taken to the hospital because of the burning specifically. no word on the extent of their injuries. jon: tesla motors is in china now. the california-based company is making its first deliveries there, handing eight customer keys to china's first all-electric model s sedans. the rollout taking place during a brief ceremony at tesla's
beijing office which is also the site of the company's first charging station. tesla's ceo announced that the automaker planned to build a nationwide network of charging stations and service centers as soon as possible there in china. jenna: the supreme court hearing arguments on a case that could change the way you watch television. the issue, whether a subscription service that provides streaming live and recorded shows is violating the copyright laws. peter barnes, fox news network is live from the supreme court with all of this peter? >> reporter: that's right, jenna. aereo streams over the air broadcast signals to thousands of its customers but does not pay broadcast networks for those signals like cable and satellite companies do. in questioning here, today, a majority of the justices were, asking pretty tough critical questions of aereo, its technology and its business model. justice roberts, kennedy breyer, scalia, ginsberg and kagan, so a
majority again, asking these kind of tough questions. kagan, for example, hey, looking at menu on aereo and the controls, quote, it is exactly the same thing as watching cable. chief justice roberts saying that there is no reason for you to have thousands of small antennas, which is how this operate, rather than having one big antenna, there is no reason for aereo to have 10,000 antennas other than to get around the copyright laws. but the attorney for aereo, david fredericks said, listen if an individual can put a antenna on their home, digital antenna and run the line down to their tv and record shows, and not pay any kind of license fee to anybody, because it is an individual broadcast, why should aereo customers have to pay? so the justices now having to wrestle with this difficult question of, what, comes under copyright law, and, the impact that a decision could have on
future technologies like aereo for television viewers. the court expected to rule on this case by this summer. jenna, back to you. jenna: at home, doesn't it, peter? >> reporter: fox is a party to the case. it is one of the ones that has sued aereo. jenna: we'll watch it very closely. peter, thank you. >> reporter: you bet. jon: just in to the fox newsroom, a photo of a rockslide that brought down more than 150 tons of rock on to a roadway early tuesday. it has closed colorado highway 24 near minturn it occurred halfway between minturn and red cliff, a couple old mining towns in colorado. it caused significant damage as he size of boulders that fell. the colorado department of transportation said there is no estimate when the highway will reopen. the department says geologists are assessing safety of surrounding areas, including rocks directly above the slide area.
they will probably have to blast those out to get them moved. many american families cheered the joy i did over this easter holiday having a family meal with a child who puts his life on the line for our country. big home coming to tell you about after the break. [cheering] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
>> it was a pretty cool weekend in the scott household. you have done this before. your husband came back from several deployments. but this was the first time my son came back from afghanistan. >> it is an intense experience. >> it was. this is after they marched in the hangar in fort riley, kansas. there is my son and older daughter. she was glad to have her brother home. they opened the hangars home and
these guys march in. men and women. respiratory they were away -- they were away nine months. >> what sort of meal was the first he wanted to have. >> we took him out for a steak. >> a good steak. >> they had steaks over in afghanistan, but they were not necessarily high quality stuff. >> well, we are glad he is home to have a steak. >> he will be back for a year and half before he goes somewhere else. you know how that feels? >> everyone has their own experience though and i certainly can relate to that and glad he is back. >> it is very, very cool. >> not everyone gets to come home unfortunately. >> we are proud of him for sure.
>> we have a programming change to tell you about. we'll see changes on monday our show will stay at 11:00 eastern time. we have a new show. outnumbered. one guy and four women. sounds fair. >> guys can hold their own. >> and thanks for joining us. great to have you with us today. >> america's news headquarters starts right now. >> this is a fox news alert, on the growing tension in ukraine. strong words from the u.s. to russia. i am elizabeth para. >> and vice-president joe biden in kiev and brought a blunt and direct warning to the russians as the u.s. pledges more for the ukraine's fragile government. >> we have heard a lot from the russiaof